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Go from recorded conversation to a defensible editorial brief.

Record or upload an interview. Second Source returns the quotes worth using, the claims that need checking, the reporting still missing, and the angles the conversation can actually carry. Every one of them opens the exact second it came from, in the speaker's own words.

Defensible here means traceable and reviewable: every line below points back to an exact moment in the recording. It does not mean automatically verified, fact checked, or legally cleared.

The evidence spine

One sentence someone said, followed all the way to a publishable shape.

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And we built this thing called monkey type where we basically, like, capture runtime type.

Mike Krieger. Recorded wording, unedited.

Demo workspace

Two already processed conversations, read only. Nothing here saves. Select any quote, claim, task, or angle to see the recorded moment behind it.

Editorial signal

4 of 4 signals present. Anything missing is reported as missing.

How to read this desk

Everything here is a first pass over recorded speech. It is evidence to judge, not fact. Selecting any item opens the exact moment it came from.

How these candidates were selected

Candidates are cut on thought boundaries and word timing, then held to hard publication thresholds. Every wording matches the transcript exactly, so nothing here has been paraphrased into a quote. That does not prove the transcript heard the speaker correctly. Listen to any line before you print it.

Recommended (2)

  • 06:13Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicUse with context

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 4 changes behind this version

    And we built this thing called monkey type where we basically, like, capture runtime type.

    • Word 1: And to removed. "And" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 11: basically, to removed. "basically" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 12: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 6: monkey type to MonkeyType. Verified name rendering from the fixed lexicon. The spoken sound is unchanged.
    Why it matters
    Mike Krieger describes their own conduct: "we built this thing called MonkeyType where we basically, like"
    Context
    Attribute both the tool and the method to Mike Krieger, and say it describes work at Instagram.
    Caution
    The mechanism is Mike Krieger's own account of an internal tool, so MonkeyType needs documentation or repository corroboration before it runs as established fact.

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  • 14:50Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicUse with context

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 1 change behind this version

    Like, the fact that our services don't talk to each other as well as they could, I think, really holds back a lot of interesting ideas around what we could do.

    • Word 1: Like, to removed. "Like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    Mike Krieger states a consequence rather than an observation: "Like, the fact that our services don't talk to each other as well as they could, I think"
    Context
    Mike Krieger is describing the boundaries between services his own team runs, and the recording never names which services or which ideas were held back, so that gap is the unresolved context rather than something he settled.
    Caution
    The services and the affected ideas are unnamed in this recording, so the specifics need follow up before the line carries any weight.

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Worth reviewing (84)

These cleared every integrity gate and measure well on at least one editorial dimension, but did not reach the recommendation bar. They are ranked by their strongest dimension so an editor can overrule the desk.

  • 04:28Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 1 change behind this version

    I hit this yesterday, and it was like, oh, I can't parse it this way.

    • Word 8: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Its object is "this way", which names nothing.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 24:07Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 3 changes behind this version

    book is the hard thing about heart attacks has this chapter on, like, where f is over, like, that feeling as a start up that probably if you have had it start up where you're like, oh, I can't believe this thing happened.

    • Word 13: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 18: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 36: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Its object is "this thing", which names nothing.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 12:53Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    As recorded

    Verbatim, exactly as recorded. No provenance safe correction was needed.

    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Only 5 words, under the 9 word floor for a self contained line.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 04:01Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 1 change behind this version

    When you say, do this thing for me, and then it would be like, oh, I can't.

    • Word 14: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Its object is "this thing", which names nothing.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 19:43Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use aloneRuns on, same speaker

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 5 changes behind this version

    So, yeah, I'm still, like, very long and bullish on startups, and it's just it papers over the fact that, like, writing code was never the, like, the limiting part.

    • Word 1: So, to removed. "So" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 2: yeah, to removed. "yeah" is hesitation noise. Removing it changes no meaning, no qualifier, and no attribution.
    • Word 5: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 21: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 27: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: It makes a sweeping claim with no specific instance behind it, so there is nothing a reader or a subject could check.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 19:53Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 4 changes behind this version

    You know, maybe it wasn't the timeline perspective, but was it never, like, the thing that was gonna, like, make or break your startup.

    • Word 1: You to removed. "You" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 2: know, to removed. "know" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 13: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 19: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: It makes a sweeping claim with no specific instance behind it, so there is nothing a reader or a subject could check.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 10:48Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 1 change behind this version

    Some of the reasons we built pod code artifacts that we shipped a couple weeks ago was partially for that, which is you would send somebody a PR, and then they'd be like, I don't know, man.

    • Word 33: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: The speaker hedges the point away, so the line asserts nothing.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 13:32Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 1 change behind this version

    And there is the concept of a vet lead or a directly responsible individual, but the interesting thing is that they don't manage usually any of the other people, which kind of breaks the that kind of previous way in which a lot these things were done.

    • Word 1: And to removed. "And" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: The speaker hedges the point away, so the line asserts nothing.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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Withheld for integrity (186)

These failed a wording, audio, attribution, or safety gate, or reached no editorial dimension at all. They are never publishable wording.

  • 07:05Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    As recorded

    Verbatim, exactly as recorded. No provenance safe correction was needed.

    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Not intelligible enough to publish: its clause structure does not resolve into a statement a reader could quote, so the meaning is not recoverable.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 16:09Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use aloneRuns on, same speaker

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 2 changes behind this version

    And Instagram really what's things that have, like, four to 5% usage.

    • Word 1: And to removed. "And" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 8: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Not intelligible enough to publish: its clause structure does not resolve into a statement a reader could quote, so the meaning is not recoverable.
    Caution
    Speech to text confidence falls to 85 percent inside this line, so a word may be wrong.

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  • 23:28Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    As recorded

    Verbatim, exactly as recorded. No provenance safe correction was needed.

    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: The recorded sentence runs on from "So actually encouraging people, like, there's no job that is so important", so this line is the back half of a longer statement.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 04:06Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 1 change behind this version

    I can barely like, I can write code, but I can't really run it, or I can kind of disrespect my partner, but not really.

    • Word 4: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: The line leans on "it" and the turns before it name more than one party: Claude, team.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 11:13Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use aloneRuns on, same speaker

    As recorded

    Verbatim, exactly as recorded. No provenance safe correction was needed.

    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Reads as a run of names, places, or an address rather than a statement.
    Caution
    Speech to text confidence falls to 75 percent inside this line, so a word may be wrong.

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  • 17:49InterviewerDo not use aloneRuns on, same speaker

    As recorded

    Verbatim, exactly as recorded. No provenance safe correction was needed.

    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: It starts mid thought on a joining word and needs a setup sentence to parse.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 21:29Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use aloneRuns on, same speaker

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 2 changes behind this version

    So finding that right sort of cut line where you have verifiability and audit logging and and sort of data prominence here, but not in a way that constraints the kinds of applications that you can build on top, I think, is a lot of the art that we're seeing in that space as well.

    • Word 1: So to removed. "So" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 17: and to removed. "and" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Ordinary setup or procedural talk rather than substance.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 24:17Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 2 changes behind this version

    Like, we're never gonna, like, recover from this.

    • Word 1: Like, to removed. "Like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 5: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: The line leans on "this" and nothing recorded before it names who is meant.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 07:26Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use aloneRuns on, same speaker

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 10 changes behind this version

    And, like, the two piece of advice I got there is, like, 2,010 that I, like, will forever retain is, like, like, basically, like, pre measure everything that you think you might even remotely need because the worst thing is an outage where you're like, well, is this, like, number normal or is it high?

    • Word 1: And, to removed. "And" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 2: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 12: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 16: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 21: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 22: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 23: basically, to removed. "basically" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 24: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 45: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 49: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: It is a question put to the source rather than something the source asserted.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 02:52Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 2 changes behind this version

    So that's been one sort of big change is sort of moving from that past delegation to, like, express the end statement and have it go and define it.

    • Word 1: So to removed. "So" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 18: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Ordinary setup or procedural talk rather than substance.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 05:26Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use alone

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 2 changes behind this version

    So that probably ranks on, like, the more reasonable things.

    • Word 1: So to removed. "So" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 6: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: It opens on a pronoun whose referent sits outside the quote.
    Caution
    Withheld from publication.

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  • 07:48Mike Krieger, Cofounder of Instagram, member of technical staff at AnthropicDo not use aloneRuns on, same speaker

    For publication

    As recorded, and the 10 changes behind this version

    So even, you know, early, it's gonna be, like, very simple but really effective, like, way which you do, like, and dynamic config to where, you know, a lot of our runtime configurations had to be changed, you know, in a matter of seconds so that we can handle load.

    • Word 1: So to removed. "So" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 3: you to removed. "you" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 4: know, to removed. "know" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 9: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 15: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 20: like, to removed. "like" is discourse filler here, not a word the speaker used to mean anything. Removing it leaves the proposition intact.
    • Word 26: you to removed. "you" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 27: know, to removed. "know" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 38: you to removed. "you" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    • Word 39: know, to removed. "know" is a false start the speaker immediately restarted over. The completed wording that follows is kept exactly.
    Why it matters
    It is not printable as it stands.
    Context
    Withheld: Ordinary setup or procedural talk rather than substance.
    Caution
    Speech to text confidence falls to 80 percent inside this line, so a word may be wrong.

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Showing the first 12 of 186. Every one is counted in the audit below.

Quote audit for this recording (272 assessed)

272 candidates assessed. 2 recommended, 84 worth reviewing, 186 withheld for integrity. These three are mutually exclusive and sum to the assessed count. Nothing is dropped without a reason on this page.

Primary reason, one per candidate

no strong signal
54
Leans on a referent the line never names
38
Spoken by the interviewer or host, not by a source
37
Too short to stand as a quote
30
A question rather than an assertion
23
Hedged to the point of saying nothing
18
Opens mid sentence or on a connective
16
Interview setup rather than substance
14
The recorded audio is not intelligible enough to quote
10
Generic phrasing that any source could have said
6
Sweeping rhetoric with nothing checkable in it
6
Points at something the line does not name
6
Its object is a demonstrative with no content in it
5
Opens on a pronoun with no referent in the line
3
Number reading that does not read as speech
1
Mostly names and titles
1
The recorded sentence continues from the turn before it, so the line reverses its own meaning when it stands alone
1
Too long to run as a pull quote
1
Diagnostic tags, which overlap and do not sum
No strong signal detected across assessed dimensions
246
Too short to stand as a quote
68
Spoken by the interviewer or host, not by a source
50
Leans on a referent the line never names
41
Generic phrasing that any source could have said
38
Hedged to the point of saying nothing
37
A question rather than an assertion
29
Points at something the line does not name
25
Opens mid sentence or on a connective
24
Opens on a pronoun with no referent in the line
22
Interview setup rather than substance
19
Its object is a demonstrative with no content in it
18
Sweeping rhetoric with nothing checkable in it
12
The recorded audio is not intelligible enough to quote
10
Mostly names and titles
4
Host introduction or agenda pivot rather than a proposition
3
Too much spoken filler
2
Filler is doing the work in the line
2
Number reading that does not read as speech
1
States that something could not be done without saying what
1
An interviewer prompt rather than a source assertion
1
Transcription confidence below the publication floor
1
The recorded sentence continues from the turn before it, so the line reverses its own meaning when it stands alone
1
Too long to run as a pull quote
1